She also does meth and possibly knew Libby's dad who had meth issues. Also.its such a small town. Mr Sautereau confirmed the death but refused to comment further. one woman show for the BBC. For whatever reason I feel the killer is associated but not the family. R251 I think it sounds like they have a suspect whose wife is providing his alibi. This development, if you can call it that, seems desperate. Evidently even prisoners loathe child rapists/killers and they are (or were) called short eyes. The killer deserves his fate and more. Hopefully the lack of screams means they were killed very fast. It looks terrifying even without the psycho killer lurking. Guys, the leaker, Leigh Kerr, will answer questions in an AM(almost)A tomorrow (Sunday) at 6:00pm EST. 2. He got his revenge and made her feel as inadequate and humiliated as she had him, and every one of his victims looked like her The same with all serial killers . Mere minutes saved her, poor child. Social media, although not new does impede our investigation. This killer sounds like he has a remarkably similar MO. R462 That was the fat pedo's reset of his phone. READ | A look at the property where two missing teen girls were found dead. A. The disgraced Judge is now representing one of the Delphi meth heads whose gang could have killed the Delphi girls. If interested, check out the podcast murder sheet which actually has a reading of the 130 page transcript. (WLS) -- There is a new All these years later, police still have not given many details about the cause of death to protect the case. There has yet to be a break in the case, although authorities believe it just takes one piece of the puzzle to solve the horrific Delphi, Indiana, murders. As the sun went down and the temperature dropped, the search continued through midnight when it was officially suspended, although some family and friends did continue to search into the overnight hours. Libby and Abby's deaths quickly became an unsolved mystery that was thrust into the national spotlight. Very sorry. It's crazy. Or something like that. Do investigators believe the bridge photo and voice belong to same person? READ | ISP call Liberty German a 'hero' for capturing audio, photos of suspect. death of the 50-year-old former Broadway actress. The semiliterate woman who posted on the sheriff's page saying her ex bf is the killer is probably just another bad lead, hence why her posts were deleted. Small town or not, this is the 21st century. Let's seeon one hand, this guy was found with a 9 year old girl chained up in his basement, having been kidnapped, sexually molested and beaten. Tony Slocom said at the time. Would you like Wikipedia to always look as professional and up-to-date? So many of the guys in that area and of that age range look like the police sketch. But still killing two teenage girls who decided at the last minute to take an unadvertised hike? The killer may have been an 'enforcer' for someone to whom a parent owed a debt. To me, it sounds like he approached them, got their attention with Guys? and then showed a gun. The amount of weapons he is carrying give him the appearance of weighing more than he does, and to me it makes he seem older than his real age, jmo. Have they interviewed Pastor Davey? The Websleuther who dug up the scanner traffic wrote: State Police out of Lafayette have an 8-county coverage area - including in and around Monticello. Years ago I went down the Beeks rabbit hole and crawled out concluding the Beeks have nothing to do with this. I stopped following this case. They have not released any pictures of the Delphi murders scene. Some believe it's related to chadwell requesting a different venue due to Delphi publicity, but the cops are no longer going to discuss any suspect publicly. @R321-- I honestly didn't see another face tattoo because I was so horrified by that one. Any murder cases where there is audio/video of the act chills me to my core for some reason. Please click here to get full access and no ads for $1.99 or less per month. Libby's photo looks like a school picture. Q. R503 Definitely. It was made to look like a posed corpse, imo. Delphi Lawrence's net worth The full video was released by police two years later, though still it garnered no concrete leads. But Durnell found holes in the story, he said, and other officers come back having found ropes and blankets similar to those in which Delphi was found wrapped in at his home. Delphi Lawrences Instagram profile link read as . The source also said the pose was sexual. The picture looks pretty similar to the sketch. I really do hope that he is caught some day - and that his lawyer doesn't get him off on some technicality. I'd be nervous and careful walking over this bridge. How do you think he killed them? The girls' causes of death have never been disclosed and their killer has never been found. When you see the video, watch the persons mannerisms as they walk, Carter said when they released it. And frankly, maybe he doesn't know since many anonymous pedophiles use it. I suspect that they do know who it is.. We believe you are hiding in plain sight, Carter said. DELPHI TIMELINE | The search for Libby & Abby's killer. He also has items strapped to his shins that are sort of boxy. It's hard to believe the DNA found under Libbys nails has yielded nothing. There's video of Chadwell in 2016 with the tattoo already on his arm, r388. James Brian Chadwell has a tie to Peru, IN where fat pedo lives. The man in the video doesn't need to be from the area. It is very difficult to study this case. But thinking about the bizarre pressers with: changing sketches and different explanations about the sketches; Doug Carters reference to The Shack; and the pressers assertion we might be surprised about a community member - I just dont know what to think except that LE needs to release more info. I would never have believed then that it would still be going on 4 years later. LE released the only the 2nd sketch shortly after the murders. That Reddit thread I posted is really heating up. There is a similarity in the way they speak. They don't have a clue who the real killer is. While police continue their search for the Delphi killer, people across the country have been coming up with their own theories about who is responsible. Nor have they released the cause of death, but certain horrific details have been leaked. Sick, sick, sick. I don't SEE any similarities b/t Chadwell and the suspect. The only real clue of their location was a photo Libby had snapped of Abby walking along the bridge and posted to her social media. This weirdo factory reset his phone the day of the murders. Then, there is the sound of a gun cocking and one of the girls screams, "Oh my God!". The charges stem from a search of his Peru, Indiana home on February 25, 2017 - just 11 days after the bodies of Liberty and Abby were found. A poster on Reddit works at an Indiana auto plant and tipped a guy who worked at the plant. Maybe the killer used sticks to make crosses near the girls' bodies. It's like those paedophile hunters who try and entrap pervs who the cops may already be monitoring. R245 could be right. Some people think he owed a drug debt, and Libby was killed as a message to him. Though, playing devil's advocate, there could have been other reasons he wanted to pretend he lived in Las Vegas, given he had been arrested for other crimes. One of my priorities is always going out to the scene locations whether it be a homicide scene or an abduction location so I can get that three-dimensional spatial aspect. Very interesting. Cell phone signal is bad there thats why they were unable to call for help. liver disease, it has been revealed. Previously, police could only collect samples from those suspects who were convicted of a felony in the state. Are they waiting for a confession? Audible gunshots would have potentially drawn attention. I'll try to find an interview with Abby's mom that's pretty good. R345, we already established that the tattoo was on his arm before the Delphi murders. I suspect they were gagged. I bet those residents are furious and if they knew the name of a local guy, someone would go for him. Just let us hear it. r64, explain. Whats with all the secrecy from the cops? Of course he is. One woman said a young guy was staying at her house and an older guy who looks like Bridge Guy picked up the younger man from her house on the day the girls went missing. How many ways can you say GUILTY. The jury of sex men and six women, however, accepted the pleas of Garnetts attorney and declined to sentence him to death. DELPHI Three years ago, two young girls went for a walk. Pedophiles identify with him. Sometimes the police are lucky in their investigations and the perp caught in a timely manner. Some of the girls' clothing was found floating in the creek that they had been forced to cross. In a news release, the Indiana State Police said the creator of the profile used their contrived opulence while communicating with underage girls to "solicit nude images, obtain their addresses, and attempt to meet them.". That bridge was really scary-looking, having no side rails. so many reddit threads i didn't read all the way through. Please listen to it very, very carefully.". What about Gabriel Ellis or Kurt Fouts (caught with an escort who said that judge Fouts was part of a sex club run by men who abuse girls in 2017).? Left thigh. That sketch, which appears to be of an entirely different person, is now believed to be the main person of interest in the murders of Libby and Abby. There were some very iffy pics that the person claimed was one one the victims. This sub is for discussion of the case that's come to be known as the Delphi Murders. I believe he is guilty of the two girls murders. Period. What is the Delphi sheriff referring to? According to the officer, Garnett told police that he and Delphi had gone to a coal yard in the southeast section of the borough, where he forced her to have sex with him. And isn't that area known as a popular place to hike, and i think people took wedding photos, engagement pictures there. So let's not get personal over this, ok? I can't imagine the 13-15 year olds he would have been "catfishing" would have any memory or even the devices they owned from back then. If they'd released more info to begin with, the guy might be in prison by now. R473 The Sheriff said that there are 3-4 people that they believe could be the killer(s) and that it changes. Also per Leigh Kerr, the girls were killed at the spot they were found and were dead by the time Liberty Germans father came to find them. The texts from the guy who found the girls say they were not posed. Hello. (I see Robert Lindsey is now recently commenting on YouTube sites.) No one has inside info and the people posting on reddit are fucking creepy and disturbing. Crews widened the scope of their search as soon as the sun came up, wandering further from the abandoned railroad tracks and into wooded areas below the bridge and along Deer Creek. R350, he's walking like that because of the bridge. Regardless of whether it's a real person he's encountered or an image of some kind. I posted at R413. It is also not known if the killer left the phone there or not. The only way we will resolve to gain justice for Abby and Libby, for their respective families and our caring community, is to remain dedicated to the preservation of said integrity. I mean, not knowing the howmeans any awful thing you think of, if that makes sense. He's wearing several layers of clothes including a hoodie and has stuff tucked under his jacket. Yeah, on Reddit you see a lot of initials with explanation. I really want this guy to pay. [1] She was educated at Halidon House School in Slough, Berkshire, whilst living in Colnbrook. Lol. In terms of the disturbing footage I've heard, it's always hearsay in this case, that the disturbing footage consists of what the killer does to the bodies. I will listen to the True Crime Garage podcast. Liberty Libby German and Abigail Abby Williams were best friends who went everywhere together. If the killer(s) were local, it would only take about 3 minutes to get to the bridge. ( R42) I think she hid the phone in her pocket. A woman who lives in the area of the murders had complained to the man (RL) whose barn may have been used for the murders that she saw some guy cooking meth at the cemetery. when it had taken them for-fucking-ever to do jack shit about it and then they bungled and fucked up the search. [1] And if so, why are they withholding the name? It wasn't too long ago and I wonder if that corresponds with the timing of this revelation, This will not be the guy- he is too fat- the guy in the video is far thinner than his baggy clothes make him look (And clearly has weaponry in his shirt), I agree R145, but apparently there are pics of him from 2017 where he's thinner (haven't seen them yet). [quote]Recording the recording, that it is brief and that it recorded the murders. The bridge has slats of decayed wood. Kline said he had about 100 pictures from underage girls that were sexual in nature, in addition to about 20 sexually explicit videos. I really hope so. Why haven't we heard anything? To see all content on The Sun, please use the Site Map. Save a ton of time and money on investigations, get criminals in jail or in electric chairs. Is he the guy here continually saying "No way it's him. The chief Delphi murders suspect appears to be middle-aged, with reddish-brown hair. I often think of this poor kid and wonder if he is okay. Could be the same guy. Forgive me if someone already said this: if the girls knew the killer they would have said his name and it would have been recorded by her phone during the attack. Become a contributor - post when you want with no ads. At 70 years old, Delphi Lawrence height not available right now. He says the items were unusual. Maybe he doesn't like them looking at him. Click on the bottom of the OPs post to read all 630 comments. View popular celebrities life details, birth signs and real ages. I just finished part II. I would characterize him as an intelligent young man, Durnell said. At the time, the suspect was described as a white man between 5-feet 6-inches tall and 5-feet 10-inches tall, weighing 180 to 220 pounds with reddish brown hair and an unknown eye color. He could have printed it out, traced it on his arm, and inked the crummy tattoo himself or had a buddy do it in 2016. A true cold case provides no leads, no information to follow into. Sometimes a hatchet is mentioned as being the murder weapon. It took the panel two hours to return with a penalty of life behind bars. But that is the way he leaves them, I think. The public has been given two sketches, is the thought there is more than one person involved or is the second sketch the suspected killer? The Delphi murders autopsy report remains sealed to this day, authorities say to protect the ongoing investigation. R219: Leigh Kerr appeared last night 3/2/2021 (either at LibbyandAbby or BuckRowdys new sub DelphiTodayIsTheDay) saying he had personal issues to attend to and would still respond. Delphi was 76 years old at the time of death. Anyway this theory fit well with a number of factors: - unconfirmed rumor that A was gored through the abdomen - effectively confirmed rumor that other girl L had injuries consistent with fighting back, raising Q of why if one fought back, the other was targeted for (abdominal) brutalization - killed to end feared pregnancy story at least provides a motive for targeting apparently innocent kids no need to invent crazy stories like someone looking to collect a drug debt made his first approach by brutally murdering the debtors uninvolved child & her even-less involved friend in broad daylight in public - motive of ending an unwanted pregnancy could be viewed as reasonable enough by a boys parents (if they are deplorable shitheads) that they might help make arrangements before or after etc , which ties into: - unconfirmed stories / speculation that the girls mightve meant to meet up with someone at bridge, even though they didnt seem to recognize the pos they encountered. The sketches were composed from witness accounts of two separate individuals who were in the area on the day of the murders. To me, it sounds like oh my God! And then Down the hill. Others have heard Hes got a gun! or I said NO!. That is an extremely rare height, isn't it? Although investigators have never given the exact context to the images or audio taken from the video, they have said they were taken during suspected criminal activity.. Tattoo could represent the killer's type of victim. There were also some texts leaked from one of the searchers who found the bodies where the searcher said the girls hadn't been assaulted, though the validity of the texts is uncertain. . We endeavor to be promptly responsive in correcting errors in the material published on digital platforms. I hope I'm just seeing things and nothing that horrific happened to the girls. Lawrence went on to star in a series of Andrew Lloyd Webber hits, including Starlight Express and Cats. The audio clip and still image of the suspect made it especially stick in my mind. Another theory involves a second photo from the Delphi killings, taken at about 2 p.m. on that fateful day, which shows a man hiding behind a tree. Im hooked on reading about this case. It was news. He spent a lot of time outdoors, even camping under a bridge, and he's clearly a psychopath even if it's not him. That said, it's not proof of anything. If that is true (and I dont know if it is true) AND he has a tattoo with eyes that are bleeding.that seems like too much of a coincidence. What is that about? The girls had noticed the pervy guy earlier when they later noticed him following them across the abandoned train trestle. Within days of the killing, showing two grainy photos of a hat-wearing suspect walking on the abandoned railroad bridge the girls had visited, Liberty's older sister Kelsi German revealed in February 2020 that she is studying forensic science in the hope of one-day helping to solve who killed her sister, Kegan Anthony Kline, 27, was identified as the man behind the catfish account, Grandparents of victim Libby German, Becky Patty, left, and her husband Mike Patty, speak during a news conference, Brother of suspect in 2017 Delphi railtrack murders says he's 'absolutely' capable of killing two girls after 'kidnap', released by police within days of the killings, pleaded guilty to abducting, beating, and molesting a nine-year-old girl, Independent Press Standards Organisation (IPSO). The second sketch is extremely amateurish compared to the first, but essentially, the guy has a bulbous nose and thin lips. Anyone remember the Gainesville Ripper? 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