Can also try downloading the magazine by one round. BrianEnos.com In my opinion, I'd suggest the factory rounds (or load a hotter load) and find out if it solves the problem. Glocks are pretty simple really. Will get some pics next time at the range. I am sure it has to do with some of the mods I've done. A couple weeks ago I installed a Timney Trigger with the red return spring. I mostly shoot 147gr Federal American Eagle. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Slide not fully returning to battery while trigger hasn't been reset (G19) So I have a G19, cerakoted slide. I had a problem with my G23 that did exactly that. before the timney Ive been using a glockstore black yikes connector and Overwatch Precision trigger. Others who know more might add some but I think it's not a problem and will wear in with use. I do not recommend using a dremel on that. My participation level isnt at the point where a dedicated backup gun makes sense so i dont have another gen 5 to compare, this might be the thing that gets me to try a sig though. I can swap the sli. I found my recoil springs drops a little as well. you say its FTRTB (failing to return to battery) when allowing the slide to slam forward (not riding it slowly) I could only guess something wasnt put together properly. It does once I release(reset) the trigger. Maybe he did something to the slide? There are MANY other options for Glock trigger mods and all of them have been in use far longer than the Timney. You should buy one of these if you don't already have one. If this is only an issue when easing the slide forward than it may not be an issue at all. I couldnt be happier. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Several years ago a local Glock shooter told me Lone Wolf is what he used. JavaScript is disabled. If the problem gets worse that would be another indicator. Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. Maybe ne messed something up in the slide. This may sound crazy but if you or a buddy have a tac light slip it on the rail and try firing again. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Usually a problem in the op rod channel or a rail problem. releasing the trigger allows it to go the rest of the way home. The slide goes forward just fine if he doesn't hold back the trigger but when he holds back the trigger, the slide won't go fully forward. It only hangs up if I hold the trigger back as if shooting off the reset. Grab the slide by the serrations and ram the web of your shooting hand into the cradle of the frame as hard as you can until it unjams. By If that doesn't fix it, take the slide apart in the rear (you can find a YT video of how to take the back plate off) and make sure the springs on the firing pin, extractor and firing pin safety are in their correct orientation and not deformed. With the slide off, there was visible movement in the timney part when i manipulated the trigger. The tools. What load you firing? Your link has been automatically embedded. None of my other Glocks do it. Be sure to check out our gun classifieds where you can buy, sell or trade your gear. I have a couple Dawson and Henning magazine extensions. Ive tried swapping the extensions to different mag bodies for what its worth and the result is the same. The issue is the 19 will not go into battery when I pull the slide back. https://www.glockstore.com/Glock-Armorers-Half-Slide-Cover-Plate, AR15 Optics decision/dilemma. Paste as plain text instead, My brand new Glock 19 Gen4 does the exact thing. If so, look for interference or binding during feeding. I've got a 3rd gen G19 that I use as a suppressor host. I've shot pistols for a while and also have a g17. So let's make sure we understand this situation. Thanks for the suggestion. But after doing some research, I shouldn't be surprised that a guy who got arrested for ripping off his LEO department, and even got his wife arrested for it too, would hier less than professional crew. The second came from the Instructor I took the course from. Ive played with the trigger a good bit and its still a glock trigger. But about 1-2 rounds out of 100 it wouldnt quite go in to battery and Id need to tap the back of the slide slightly to seat it (started off at like 3 in 5 rounds). Let it forward a little bit and then let go. You must log in or register to reply here. I've been running Glock pistols since they came out with the G21 in .45acp over 30 years ago, that's when I sold my Colt 1911 and never looked back. It runs fine when shooting but it you ease the slide forward it stops and does not go into battery unless the trigger is moved forward. We also have Glock related articles like Tools Used . Also do you have another 17 handy? Pull the slide about 1/2" to the rear and let it go. Was this an issue before you installed the new connector? I bought a used (only shot one time) Gen 3 Glock 36. Don't leave 10mm brass, someone here will be willing to pay cash for them. The test I use is to take an UNLOADED gun and hold the trigger back, rack the slide back, then let the slide forward with my handto the point just before the barrel starts to rotate up, then I release the slide. Haha. No aftermarket parts except Night Sights on a Glock that is going to be a Self Defense Weapon. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. "If I could have banned them all - 'Mr. I gave it a little more oil than normal and seems to be getting better. *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win. Have you tried the field test for the RSA? If the slide goes into battery with this test, you've got other issues. Never an issue with limp wristing so far. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. I filmed one handed just so that I can get it on video. February 21, 2022 in Glock. -Thomas Jefferson, quoting Cesare Beccaria, This is a decent video to check out to double check. This condition would be even worse if I had a round in the chamber and loaded magazine. Anyways, I noticed when messing around with it that the slide is not going all the way back into battery when I ride the slide forward while holding the trigger back. 2 Angle the pistol so that the muzzle is pointed straight up. Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. I'm going to investigate your suggestions. I stripped the entire frame and can't seem to find the issue. I have to say that with a little tuning my Timney triggers run like no other Glock trigger I have owned and they are really a game changer for Glock pistols if you look closely at how they function! You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers. FYI it's not the recoil spring. Handy to have this around while you're tinkering A forum community dedicated to all New York firearm owners and enthusiasts. NWGlocker Registered Joined Aug 12, 2010 Sometimes they go in crooked and stick up a bit. I don't know if that is the problem, but thank you for trying to help. this is normal for a glock as they are not designed to have the slide closed slowly like this. 20+ is for 10mm. This allows me to use my loads (in 9mm, I'm usually around 3.4 - 3.7gr Titegroup under a 124gr JHP) and the gun runs flawlessly. Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. A bit off the Timney topic, but you might try a Lone Wolf connector with the Overwatch trigger. Copyright 1996-2023 AR15.COM LLC. May be the recoil spring not being in the right seat position. The trigger bar and connector are polished but no metal reshaped or removed. Lots of creep, but that is by design. try firing it. If the firing pin did not drop then chances are that is the issue. Ammo used was all cheap Tula 9mm 115 gr. I have just installed an Agency arms trigger & trigger bar in the gun. From personal experience I recommend a factory connector. The plunger spring somehow got turned sideways. If it strips a round and goes completely into battery then the recoil spring is at least minimally OK. Check for it. Sometimes you just need to oil them and rack the slide a few hundred or thousand times to break it in. BTW, the Cold Bore work is really nice! I will look into it. This is only going to be used at the range. Everything seemed fine at a field strip level just to oil. I appreciate any help or tips you folks might have. It appears that the safety plunger spring was laying sideways instead of inside the safety plunger. When it completely hangs I can release the trigger part way and it will snap into battery. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Oh, it was like filing. If it goes into battery completely then the recoil spring is at least minimally OK. Another test I've seen done is to load a magazine completely full. The slide hangs up on something about 1/2" back. The problem is when the slide slams forward. plunger spring or firing pin spring so i would leave the alone. The last thing you want is to damage it so it's inoperable. Ok, then 2k rounds isn't outside the realm of possibility for the spring to start failing the spring test. Display as a link instead, Lord, make me fast and accurate. If that doesn't work I would also suggest installing a heavier recoil spring and a heavier trigger spring. Just got my G26 back from Cold Bore Customs and did a quick trigger job, installed a smooth trigger and an extended slide release. They dont always fit perfectly right away. Just a thought. In my opinion, I'd suggest the factory rounds (or load a hotter load) and find out if it solves the problem. My glock 19 doesn't go back into battery until I reset the trigger. 1. How are you sending the slide forward? I have Timney triggers in two Glock 17 Gen 4 MOS pistols that I run in USPSA CO. Just got my slide back from being milled for dp pro and does not go into battery every time. A forum community dedicated to glock owners and enthusiasts. BTW, it fired and function 100% last night for 250 rounds with the spring installed incorrectly. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Clear editor. If I let It slam shut there is no problem. Come join the discussion about optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, troubleshooting, accessories, classifieds, and more! I read it gave a much nicer trigger pull. When I pull it all the way back and then release, the slide locks just fine. That's one reason why using the slide stop is more reliable than pulling back on the slide; because some times shooters will pull it back but then also ease it forward removing momentum and causing the gun to not lock up properly. I guess it's best to keep a couple spare recoil springs for the G26 just in case. Your link has been automatically embedded. Yes Glocks are pretty darned easy firearms to work with/on and, because of this, they are easy to make mistakes with as well. I just push it a fraction of an inch with my thumb, and it's good to go. What do your used primers look like? I'm not new to glocks and have done detailed strips before so I don't think it is the recoil spring not seated correctly. *********************************************, [URL]https://membership.nrahq.org/forms/signup.asp?campaignid=XI026751. JavaScript is disabled. Yes, the Glock has been altered from stock. Then again, I would caution folks not to expect any new trigger or trigger part is going to be a simple drop in item. Then compare frames and see what is different. Your load seems fine to me - adequate for a typical Glock 19 to operate well. I have never really seen the need for an "armorer" when working with my Glocks. I've read through a lot of the big thread on the Timney Trigger, and have searched, and haven't been able to find similar malfunctions happening with the Timney. I know a few guys who shoot sigs and its starting to feel like Ive been trying to make my gun perform more like theirs. I tired changing the connector back to the original and nothing changed. Is this RSA going to $hit already? Or like actually hitting it with a file some? Its light but mushy. I am pretty familiar, but I work with a Glock Advanced Armorer and even he is a bit stumped. Agree with Danzig but I actually suspect it may have more to do with the slide, if your Suarez slide has been caracoated or duracoated there is the possibility of some build up in the slide rail slots or on the bottom of the slide in the area where the connector rides causing your problem. Just wanted to point out that you can limp wrist with both hands on the gun and if everything is stock like you said, and you truly believe it has only been fired once, I default to user error. I totally get this. Timney should be a little more straightforward with their instructions. releasing the trigger allows it to go the rest of the way home. Kinda weird. I have used them in several Glocks and found them to give a light pull while also giving a crisper break and feel. All Rights Reserved. While you're at it, give the drop safety button a good buffing as well. Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more. Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. When I got the first one for my 34.4, I had multiple issues that I couldn't resolve, so I got my backup 34.4 dropped that same trigger in and it ran perfectly first time in. A forum community dedicated to Glock firearm owners and enthusiasts. 2 Angle the pistol so that the muzzle is pointed straight up. Shoot the crap out of it. In the dozen or so that I have built and helped build, I have never had a need to 'file' down a trigger bar safety tab. Display as a link instead, Back up a step that you took, and test,.. ie,.. swap the Timney back out. Seat the magazine and pull the slide back all the way. Not throwing shade on your loads just trying to eliminate a variable. I had the luxury of multiple Glocks to fall back on, though. Technical Factory Pistols Glock failure to go into battery after installing Timney Trigger failure to go into battery after installing Timney Trigger By Nick29 February 21, 2022 in Glock Share Followers 2 Reply to this topic Start new topic Nick29 Posted February 21, 2022 Nick29 Members 10 Gender:Male Location:San Antonio, TX Here's how you can test if it's a recoil spring issue: 1 With the pistol empty, pull the trigger, and keep the trigger depressed. The slide stops with the top bullet in the magazine stuck against the feed ramp. Pasted as rich text. no Go on the back plate do not have one.. UPDATE! Maryland Shooters is the most active and largest Maryland gun community online. Haha). If you can get it to be smooth with a clean and consistent break, the pull will still be 5 to 5.5 pounds. Remove as little material as necessary while maintaining the proper angle on it (sear face). What happens when you let the slide slam forward? Based on your answers, I would suggest (2) things. You are using an out of date browser. Nice pull and crisp break. What Argyle said sounds about right. moved the trigger spring up on the trigger bar. January 3, 2004 in Glock. I'll do a detail strip soon and see if I find anything out of the ordinary. Any update on this? I'm guessing if the OP was shooting reloads this may have been the problem. I have played with many Glock triggers and trigger parts since then, both Glock and aftermarket selections, looking for that secret sauce. If you have a weak spring, the slide won't go back into battery if you slowly let it move upwards against gravity. The simple thing seems to be that something did not go back together right. Is this how it supposed to function? I'm kinda an apartment dweller with more Barbie dolls than tools (they are my daughters. I checked and it looks fine. I was a little afraid to fire it after I ran the recoil spring test and it didn't go back into battery. I sent 100 rds down range today and no problems. No lube should be needed on RSA. One new winner* is announced every week! Nick29 If you completely stripped it, listen to alma. Buy, Sell, and Trade your Firearms and Gear. These both assume a stock Glock so YMMV.-----I had a stock G19 that was failing to go into battery during live fire. I'm assuming the recoil spring isn't the issue since it's only been fired one time. A slight adjustment to the crimping die corrected the problem. Welcome to Glocks, Is it safe to shoot? I am finding that especially when dry-firing, even when I am careful to let the slide "slam" shut, the slide hangs up right before lockup. Just an excuse to try something new. Paste as plain text instead, I'm wondering if it could be a defective recoil spring? Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. Im a little ahead of you on this path. Paste as plain text instead, If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. 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